#75: David Icke

Thank you for having David Icke,
Throughout my life, I have been aware that I do not conform to the expectations of the world around me. Despite not being the youngest, I have always felt like I did not quite belong. My soul may have erred in choosing to inhabit this particular reality. This sense of not fitting in has been a consistent theme in my life, and has led me to reflect on my place in the world.

I like David, but he does not appear to be familiar with the serious research being conducted by the Division of Perceptual Studies, UVA et al. But it’s difficult sifting through the BS reincarnation and Near Death Experience stories. Many are obvious plants. Others appear to be the active imaginations of well-meaning but biased individuals. But some of the stories that have a lot of evidence supporting their experience. David seems to be grouping them all into the BS pile when many are not explainable by normal means.

I’m enjoying this conversation, at min 33, Dr Cowan ask the most pertinent question and Mr Icke says yes, and makes reference to what he calls prime reality.

My answer to Tom’s question is also yes and I simply call it Nature. Our reality is based in Nature as all life springs forth from Nature as does our consciousness. Super Nature or the supernatural is this boundless arena we exist in and the archons also exist in the supernatural world. I think the Sethian Gnostics got it right, myself.

AI or Archontic Intrusion is the source of our fake reality… technology is driving this fake reality… when I ground myself in Nature and the Natural world… Mr Ickes simulated holographic reality quickly dissipates !

I love this website and fully intend to become a member… because…the Heart is not a Pump !!

AI is Satan…..straight up. The technology and evil came to earth in the form of Black Goo.
Check out Harald Kautz

so if it’s all a simulation and there is a larger reality we don’t experience but it’s controlling this reality with ‘error correcting codes’ and AI, who programs the AI? And why would the other beings who are feeding off the loosh have to be that way? Why can’t they if they experience the greater reality, appreciate the beauty of oneness and not even bother with all the super negative garbage?

I suppose this explains the desire for permanent war and all the attendant horrors, along with all the types of suffering we can experience.

Dr Tom, Dr Kaufmann, Dr Bailey et al are currently doing a wonderful job using the scientific method to destroy viral theory. In keeping with said scientific principles (Let’s see the papers, Judy!), please engage David Icke (birth and background info scrubbed) in a vigorous scientific debate over his Theory of the Reptilian Elite. You know, the ‘Annunaki’ and the ‘Archons’ and what have you. Or has Icke since abandoned that theory of his?

Also, please provide scientific evidence that Dr Tom’s magic elixirs and magic water stirring spoons are necessary and in fact perform better than placebo.

Thank you for your scientific and un-self-interested attention to these matters.

Yes Gary, very much so, am I.

Although David Icke would probably stay away from David Weiss, which is very strange indeed, as you would have thought that if anyone would be able to grasp the biggest psyop ever played against mankind, it would be exposed by someone like DI. Its probably becaaue it leads one to the existence of an Infinite Creator.

There is a simpler rational explanation for the slide into anti-humanism and dystopia. Ultimate ideas in philosophy concerning metaphysics, epistemology and ethics govern man’s behavior in ways most don’t comprehend. If facts were plastic and ever changing, as per Heraclites, then reason would be misleading. Without reason, ethics supports conquest, since at least dragging home a new woman and other loot offers momentary benefit. In which case, wars become normalized, since without reason there is no ultimate frame of reference by which right and wrong can be discovered and proven, and so disputes cannot be resolved justly. That’s the cultural condition we live in today, more and more. The very long history of civilization disintegration—two hundred years or so in the West and thousands in much of the Far East—makes sense. For philosophical trends run for hundreds or thousands of years until some confluence of events boosts a new way of thinking and living among some special cultural group. Benevolence is disappearing, because reason has been under assault for centuries. Without reason, knowledge evaporates, and conflicts intensify. Ours is a power culture increasingly; child and human sacrifice appeal to the sexual and aesthetic appetites of habitual seekers of power.

Yogananda said something similar in his books about Jesus – that its the Satanic energy keeps us in the cycle of reincarnation by getting us attached to the “physical” (maya) world. You can escape it by tuning into the “prime reality” if you like.

Has the incarnation of the Human Being through the epochs and the natural kingdoms been reduced to a simulation? I understand that a synthetic overlay of all life forms has been happening for decades through technology and that we are being captured, on various levels, into this AI ( ahrimanic intelligence). But to leave out the possibility of experiencing, through individual and community effort, the Higher Spiritual Realms and our striving to Spiritually evolve as a people, is a tragic error that many are falling into. What is the remedy for Humanity? Anthroposophy………

Sounds a lot like Howdie’s book “Exit the Cave”.

Check out CS Lewis’ Screwtape Letters.

Excellent interview

Very much enjoyed your talk with Mr Icke.
I’m looking forward to your “eventual” conversation with David Weiss. Perhaps Andrew could be on as well.